Such good, strategic points. Thanks for making them, and I hope the AFL-CIO is paying attention.
I've from a labour background and have been involved in the environmental movement most of my adult life, and am so disappointed that the environmental movement hasn't said anything about Gaza, and wish they could be more like much of the labour movement that has endorsed a ceasefire.
I know these movements are so different -- one working class, the other middle class as just one example -- but I wonder if it would have a radicalizing effect to unionize some of them. And, who knows? Maybe some of the environmental organizations' funders support Israel. Is Greenpeace unionized? What about Avaaz?
Just a wild fantasy but I thought it couldn't hurt to share.
The unique thing about the labor movement relative to other social movements is that unions have power via the ability to withhold labor which is a type of power that no other movement has. So labor can be uniquely influential if they're well organized. But yes any social justice org should be on the right side of this.
I suspect the mainstream environmental groups are so terrified at the prospect of Trump 2 that they feel bound to keep quiet on Gaza. It's understandable but ultimately inexcusable.
You saw the clip of the middle aged man shouting down Greta Von Thurnberg when she was talking about Gaza and saying he was there because he's an environmentalist and "not for a political event" right?
Of course I wasn't saying you agreed with him lol. I was just thinking the incident might give a hint as to the mindset that has led to mainstream environmental orgs not speaking out on Palestine
From an economic modelling perspective, prior to negotiations you should maximize your outside option, as it is the base negotiating point. The outside option is partially influenced by external factors, partially by decisions the involved party makes. It seems like in the case of some unions, they did not maximize their outside option.
Such good, strategic points. Thanks for making them, and I hope the AFL-CIO is paying attention.
I've from a labour background and have been involved in the environmental movement most of my adult life, and am so disappointed that the environmental movement hasn't said anything about Gaza, and wish they could be more like much of the labour movement that has endorsed a ceasefire.
I know these movements are so different -- one working class, the other middle class as just one example -- but I wonder if it would have a radicalizing effect to unionize some of them. And, who knows? Maybe some of the environmental organizations' funders support Israel. Is Greenpeace unionized? What about Avaaz?
Just a wild fantasy but I thought it couldn't hurt to share.
The unique thing about the labor movement relative to other social movements is that unions have power via the ability to withhold labor which is a type of power that no other movement has. So labor can be uniquely influential if they're well organized. But yes any social justice org should be on the right side of this.
I suspect the mainstream environmental groups are so terrified at the prospect of Trump 2 that they feel bound to keep quiet on Gaza. It's understandable but ultimately inexcusable.
I wonder what the excuse of Canadian environmental groups is. I'd so love to see them take a stand for Palestine.
You saw the clip of the middle aged man shouting down Greta Von Thurnberg when she was talking about Gaza and saying he was there because he's an environmentalist and "not for a political event" right?
Yes, I did. I disagree with him, though, because imo war, isn't just a political issue, but an environmental issue as well.
Of course I wasn't saying you agreed with him lol. I was just thinking the incident might give a hint as to the mindset that has led to mainstream environmental orgs not speaking out on Palestine
Good point. Sounds about right.
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From an economic modelling perspective, prior to negotiations you should maximize your outside option, as it is the base negotiating point. The outside option is partially influenced by external factors, partially by decisions the involved party makes. It seems like in the case of some unions, they did not maximize their outside option.
Or, you could be the president of the Teamsters and just meet with fascists.
Way way WAY too Trot for me.