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Kj's avatar

Who's even out there to pull the party left? Bernie sold his soul and is 80.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

You have missed the entire point of Nolan’s work.

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Kj's avatar

I understand the point. I just don't see anyone out there that can move the party left. There's nobody in Congress that is anything more than center left. I can't see anyone getting through the democratic party machine next election, especially if Kamala is the incumbant.

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Mark Taylor's avatar

Center left is an extinct species in the modern Democratic Party of Dick Cheney!

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Eric Deamer's avatar

Rashida Tlaib, AOC who I think will be old enough and I know is divisive, non-politicians like Shawn Fain or Sara Nelson

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GreyHues's avatar

Claudia De la Cruz, Cornel West, Jill Stein

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Mark Taylor's avatar

In the Democratic party?

Chuckle, Chuckle and Chuckle.

Hamilton notes at the beginning of the column: "...pull the Democratic Party to the right."

"Pull"? They've been yanked to the right. Kamala Harris said she was "honored" to receive Dick "Blood-n-Guts" Chenery's endorsement . Honored? She should have run and hid her face in shame.

The Democrats are already a corporate, pro-war fascist party. For godsake, just look at Biden and the Congressional dem record over the past four years.

And on a fundamental issue, let's say Biden had followed through on his promises of a $15/hr minimum wage and a public health care option and an Easter basket of other left goodies, NONE of that would have offset his active support, funding and participation in the US/Israel genocide in Gaza. NONE ... OF ... IT. There is no worse act of a government, party or politician than genocide. And remember, a government that is a willing participant of genocide will, in time, turn the same tactics against it's own population. There was no reforming the Nazi party and no reforming the Democratic Party. They passed a point of no return. To think otherwise is beyond naive. It is suicidal.

American politics are dead. Direct action -- union organizing, strikes, general strikes, targeted boycotts, mutual aid etc -- is our only course.

It's the Republocrats ... the one corporate uniparty.

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defineandredefine's avatar

I recently saw a video of man very emotionally asking how anyone can vote for Harris. The point he kept coming back to was along the lines of "what are you afraid of? You survived 4 years of Trump already! You'll be fine! My people are dying now!"

I started to write a comment about how people are worried that, along with all the horrible shit in Project 2025, trump will bring the war home in terms of directly targeting pro-Palestine demonstrator with state violence (more so), and we can't be so sure we'll survive another 4 years of trump.

Then I deleted the comment without posting.

Because I don't honestly know if it can get any worse, regardless of who sits in the white house. For the Middle East, Israel is going to war with Iran, and they're gonna keep fucking Gaza and the West Bank and Lebanon. That doesn't stop regardless of who wins next month. And, even if Harris governs similarly with Biden on domestic policy, their immigration policies still fucking suck in so far as it's a slightly more polite version of trump's policies. And as for economic policy, well, the judiciary has been bought and paid for, so it probably won't matter on that front either.

So I don't think I can honestly say we'll better off if trump loses. Nothing really seems particularly hopeful right now, at least on a global level.

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Mark Taylor's avatar

As I’ve said in the past, with this election we are being presented a choice between a cat turn and a dog turd. They are both ZioNazi fascists. In some ways, I believe Harris would be as bad — perhaps worse — than Trump. In my view, she revealed herself in that “I’m speaking” moment. If you focus in on her eyes you see a cold empty soul.

I won’t vote for either. As the boiled brain presidency of Biden (who really is in charge) has proven, who is president is pretty much irrelevant. We are being ruled by corrupt, vile deep state actors like the CIA.

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defineandredefine's avatar

I'm very sad these days.

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Mark Taylor's avatar

I can identify. I bounce between sadness and white hot anger.

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defineandredefine's avatar

Yeah...me too...frankly, there's a lot to be both sad and angry about these days.

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Lidija P Nagulov's avatar

Republocrats sounds extremely correct.

It really bothers me that we keep discussing the Dems as if they just need a bit of fine tuning and not a collective trip to The Hague.

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GreyHues's avatar

This guy gets it.

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Kj's avatar

West and Stein will be almost 80 by the next election.

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GreyHues's avatar

Well Claudia will only be like 50 or so

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MG's avatar

These losers are not the future. Fain and Nelson maybe. Tlaib maybe. People who have actually delivered for working people.

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GreyHues's avatar

Not with that attitude. I see PSL doing a lot of good for the country even outside of elections.

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MG's avatar

Their attractiveness to working people does not depend on my attitude, I assure you.

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

Dude, seriously, search "Jill Stein Russia." I'll wait.

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GreyHues's avatar

She has addressed those rumours many times. Most recently, last month on The Breakfast Club.

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

Yes, and the Tenet Media goobers "addressed" the issue of their paychecks being funded by Russia. Doesn't mean it isn't true.

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GreyHues's avatar

I don't think it's true just based on all the details I've but that doesn't change the the Green Party's platform. Besides, I'm not voting for her anyway.

If you wanna talk about outside interference, check out how every politician backed by AIPAC tweet the same messages around the same time.

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