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Etta T's avatar

As an actual union activist, fuck you and your childish "frame." What you have is an ideology that blinds you to complexity. I'm in the trenches and I know just as well as you that economic inequality is at the root of our national disease. But if you don't give a shit about national politics and its consequences - in this year alone, loss of bodily autonomy for women, education access for students of color, aid forgiveness for indebted students, the constant assault on voting rights, and on, and on - if you think that labor power alone can overcome this - in short, if you're not holding your nose and voting Democrat, then you and Jill Green and Cornel West and Chris Hedges and the rest of you truly unempathetic assholes who get off on your own self-righteousness can fuck all the way off.

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D. Kepler's avatar

As an actual human, you're an asshole. You came to someone else's party and said to the host, "fuck you, I don't like your party theme."

Nolan needs no defending from me. He's a grown man. But even though I'm reading this a year later I gotta say something.

1. Mind your own damned business about who other people vote for. You want them to vote the same way as you? Here's a tip. Don't start by telling them the way they think is childish.

2. Nolan was an "actual union activist" and organizer too. Your indignant moral trump card is negated.

3. Everyone has a frame, including you. The class war frame touches everything. Do you have a better frame? You could have told us but you're such a full-of-yourself asshole you chose not to add to the conversation.

4. I've read essays like this by plenty of black people. This frame you hate so much was essentially the frame used by Cesar Chavez with farmworkers. This was part of the frame used by MLK in the march for jobs and freedom. A lot people forget about the jobs part of that march. King was assassinated in Memphis. Why was he there? In support of a strike by unionized sanitation workers.

5. My god, all the black women I work with would agree with this framing completely. I know because when we talk politics, this comes up frequently.

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Etta T's avatar

And because two hours later I still find myself seething about the entitled class Spartacus Hamilton fucking Nolan, let me add one more observation. The only person who writes an essay like this is a white man. Show me a woman, much less a progressive woman, who writes this ignorant shit. No, they understand what happens when abortion rights are dead and gone. My god, show me a black woman who would write this pabulum.

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Bkyn mom's avatar

I feel ya though I think he just sounds very young...classism, sexism, racism..they are intertwined, but it takes a little more seasoning to fully see that. Class is easiest to focus on for many becuae it appears to be race and gender agnostic. But one of the possible (I am no acrivist just read some right to work arguments) reasons unions appeared to have died is because many (but not all) white men were convinced that they were just one promotion away from being management or being the owner. And they allowed themselves to believe if they just separated from the undeserving (ie " the Blacks, Women and long hair hippies comunists marixsts"), they too could be the next CEO power player. As Marco Rubio supposedly said "we are not a nation of have and have-nots, we are a nation of haves and soon to haves"...I can't imagine any Black woman no matter how Socialist/Marxist she may be falling for that bs line.

But he is writing a larger book so maybe he can better touch on those topics in long form!

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D. Kepler's avatar

The guy is in his forties and actually started a union in a former workplace.

Sounds seasoned to me.

As for why "unions appear to have died", I don't even know where to start with you. That you wrote that tells me you know effectively nothing about labor history, union history, and the political fights connected to unions and labor.

So, try knowing something before you write such empty nonsense.

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Bkyn mom's avatar

Bless your heart!

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