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Ro's avatar

It’s true. I believe they should truly be the opposition, as FDR was. However, I don’t think they are deceiving us. We know they aren’t that.

At least PART of the problem is the state is in competition with capital just as it was in FDRs time, and the state has become very weak. There are complicated reasons for it. To some extent it was the result of shortsighted choices by different politicians. To some extent, it might be that the state was ALWAYS weaker and the great depression was just a fluke that weakened capital enough to give someone like FDR the power to tame it, slightly. Even for him, it wasn’t easy. There was a plot to kill him. It’s always an enormous struggle.

Of course, it’s very complicated. It IS hard to see the stupidity around many political things and not get very frustrated —but we just have to do as much as we can, on the ground, to defend the people. There’s no magic bullet available to us. This struggle is an ongoing thing.

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Mark Taylor's avatar

Yes, but compare the success of the far right in taking over the GOP and getting most of their shopping list of legislative goals. Compare that to the "supposed" shopping list of the Dems, whose difference from the GOP is measured in subtle shading.

FDR and Dems of that era knew how to fight and while far from perfect, improved things dramatically for working and middle class families.

Count up the times today's Dems even mention FDR and what was achieved. The guy won four times despite being outspent 10-to1. The fact the Dems NEVER call upon the FDR memory and legacy tells you everything you need to know about today's Dems: they are the people and corrupt corporate forces FDR fought against.

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Ro's avatar

Obviously, it’s much easier if you are simply catering directly to oligarchs.

None of their legislative goals bother power even slightly.

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Mark Taylor's avatar

True. The oligarchs know their audience and the audience knows who is handing out the free tickets ... champagne ... concert tickets ... post-congress 'consulting' gigs ...and hush-hush weekend flings.

All of them together, a disgusting lot.

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