So, the price of making fat white men feel special is the destruction of the human future? Bargain! We must help these poor snowflakes! Sacrifice everything for them—or you’re a hater!
"The guy with the bigger stick runs things” is pretty on the nose for all of this nonsense. Leave it to a South African farmer to come up with the best racist witticisms.
As an American I have to insist that Davis urging slaveholders to not be slaves tops your white South African non slaveholder! 😎although he was sure not being witty 😆
Filter all incoming information through an empire/propaganda/narrative lens, and find a way to be a piece of the revolutionary puzzle. And especially to all the liberals out there who are still squeamish about socialism, remember, no politics but class politics.
A continual paradox of American conservatism is that on the one hand it's selling this fantasy of power and strength: America is the richest best toughest country with the strongest military etc. but at the same time this impregnable fortress is seemingly always on the brink of collapse due to threats such as "blue haired baristas," trans people, crazy college professors etc. Conservatism sells the fantasy of strength but must always gin up new enemies to keep the grievance aspect of it going
and you forgot the other ingredient -- the sacred white hetero family -- whose duty it is to produce more fair skilled babies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
"To the extent that liberals have tried, for the past 200 or so years, to build good faith arguments against this line of thought, they have wasted their time. There is nothing rational here." Finally, someone writes what I've been thinking for years; thank you. Reasoned words are useless. In school I was taught that the Civil War solved this problem; the truth has always been something else: "The Civil War is not over until we today have done our part. The Civil War is in the present as well as the past. The Civil War is still going on, it is still to be fought, and regrettably, it still can be lost." Barbara Fields, Columbia University, 1993
This is a succinct and brilliant encapsulation of the "wrap white nationalism in a JD Vance-academic patina" dynamic; I'm grateful you braved the snake's nest of white supremacy to bring us this *on the nose* analysis.
“Why so many young people say they would not die for their own country”- bully for them, if it means dying in any of our doomed bullshit from Vietnam to Iraq and on and on. No qualms about sacrificing someone else’s kids for what amount to nothing more than geopolitical chess moves for the warmongers in charge.
Even though its always in bad faith, never for the right reason and incapable of reaching the correct conclusion, conservative critiques of western liberalism have a kernel of truth in them.
Western (white!) democracies have been a blight on the rest of the world. Not because their stated values of justice and egalitarianism are wrong but because they were founded on and continue to function solely on the premise of and for the preservation of their own supremacy.
From colonization to Manifest Destiny, whatever these people say about freedom, and rule of law and democratic ideals are undercut by a uniform culture of domination, extraction, exploitation and death.
If I allow myself to hope for a livable future for this planet and all its inhabitants, it starts with the wish for the Global South to stamp out any and all aspirations to whiteness, unite and provide the world an alternative to white supremacy.
On a tangent, I’m not on social media but people should definitely be tagging these trump sycophants with a #trumpcuck hashtag.
If given a choice between Trump fucking his wife or being publicly denounced by Trump and banished from MAGA Is there really any question what Vance and his ilk would choose?
What really scares right wingers is people entering the country that might want something from the country's owners and leaders. Things like rights, decent wages, fair treatment, education, etc. They come in with strange ideas about what they might deserve in terms of a decent life in their new land. And the right wing - correctly - fears deeply that this is what liberals and lefties also want. The rich do not want to give that to anyone, or let any ideas of equality take root and grow. No one "deserves" anything but the wealthy, or what the rich will oblige. Benchmark native born exemplary "patriots" on the right will accept whatever they are given by their rulers because they understand that is the right way to go, and the correct kind of conservative leaders know what is best. Anyway, you can't see what the brilliant leaders can see, just as a child cannot see things a parent can. You have to accept their judgement. Mr. Trump is smart - a good businessman! - and you can't be smarter than that. If you get shitty wages, no social assistance even under the worst imaginable circumstances, a sudden crisis of increasing prices and cost of living, well, the right wing patriot knows this is not caused by the leaders on their side of the aisle... and anyway some of that is natural in life's struggle against scarcity... and people are lazy, undisciplined and worthless and don't work enough... and that sacrifices have to be made for the greatness of the country, etc. They have been trained not to see that all the surpluses they create through their shitty jobs only accrue to the wealthy. They speak up only to support their leaders, and shut up and follow when they are given orders. At least that is what guys like Vance would like to see and are working to try to cement. Foreigners with weird ideas (and dark skin) will only cause static and "poison" and dilute the proper formula for the pure correct order. But there will always be potential problems... the possibility that eventually, when the scarcity gets too tough to take, the rubes in the cheap seats might start asking real questions. We do occasionally see a tiny bit of this now starting to gestate. Even speaking up at Republican town halls (oh my!), which they stopped doing as a result. So, to head this off: enter police state fascism. The ICE gestapo is not listening to what you think you might "deserve." THEY follow orders and take what they are given, and that after all is the way it is supposed to be. That will do the trick when all idiotic appeals to "loving America" begin to falter.
Terrifying guy ... extremely insightful analysis. Vance always makes me want to hide my Beatles records and he's coming for a lot more than that. We have a messiah complex going strong here, and absolutely pure opportunism, so I wonder what might happen if he ends up in the presidency. How he gets in might be a determining factor, if Herr Donald drops dead or by electoral means, but I think anything might happen for reasons Hamilton points out, that Vance is the ultimate ass-kisser, toady and suck-up.
Being president can change that, the difference with Vance being, in comparison with Trump, that he's not stupid, he's not old as hell and he actually has principles, they're just warped as shit. Vance, I think, might be transformed by the presidency because he would leap-frog all those whose asses he's kissed. And, as we know, he's capable of rationalizing anything. As I was reading this post I thought about an assessment of how the presidency affected Trump that I thought insightful. Maybe it applies to Vance ...
Meaning, I think the people Vance had to suck up to or whose approval he wanted might have to suck up to him. With Trump this didn't play out well, but Vance's character is totally different, and there's still a strain of populism running around in him somewhere, I believe.
Also JD Vance is just the most contemptible of slimy little opportunists, someone who will absolutely shit on everyone and everything he can if he means he can eek out another dollar or another erg of power. I really wouldn't put it past him to sell out his wife because she's brown.
One last thing - one of the Starbucks in Raleigh NC, not too far from where I live, just voted to unionize. I got into...let's say a discussion about what that'll do to the store with a commenter who apparently opposes unions, wherein I pointed out that the CEO of Starbucks is given many thousands of times more money annually than the average Starbucks worker. He responded that I must be jealous of the CEO's wealth, which is just an asinine response, but also illustrative of how deeply ingrained the prosperity gospel kind of bullshit is in this country.
The idea that the decline of people willing to die for their country is a bad thing is just bonkers on its face.
Yes all of our recent wars have been so to die for! 😆Vietnam, Iraq the list goes on!
And in the same breath calls the his opponents suicidal 🙄
So, the price of making fat white men feel special is the destruction of the human future? Bargain! We must help these poor snowflakes! Sacrifice everything for them—or you’re a hater!
"The guy with the bigger stick runs things” is pretty on the nose for all of this nonsense. Leave it to a South African farmer to come up with the best racist witticisms.
As an American I have to insist that Davis urging slaveholders to not be slaves tops your white South African non slaveholder! 😎although he was sure not being witty 😆
"Abolition tyrants" 🤝 "Woke oppressors"
Race and class mendaciousness are the double helix strands of American DNA.
We can’t get anywhere until we truly understand where we are. Hedges gives the primer here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycgBxZxYEU8
Filter all incoming information through an empire/propaganda/narrative lens, and find a way to be a piece of the revolutionary puzzle. And especially to all the liberals out there who are still squeamish about socialism, remember, no politics but class politics.
A continual paradox of American conservatism is that on the one hand it's selling this fantasy of power and strength: America is the richest best toughest country with the strongest military etc. but at the same time this impregnable fortress is seemingly always on the brink of collapse due to threats such as "blue haired baristas," trans people, crazy college professors etc. Conservatism sells the fantasy of strength but must always gin up new enemies to keep the grievance aspect of it going
and you forgot the other ingredient -- the sacred white hetero family -- whose duty it is to produce more fair skilled babies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
We have the best brood mares with the best uteruses. Big beautiful uteruses!
well said Doug!
"To the extent that liberals have tried, for the past 200 or so years, to build good faith arguments against this line of thought, they have wasted their time. There is nothing rational here." Finally, someone writes what I've been thinking for years; thank you. Reasoned words are useless. In school I was taught that the Civil War solved this problem; the truth has always been something else: "The Civil War is not over until we today have done our part. The Civil War is in the present as well as the past. The Civil War is still going on, it is still to be fought, and regrettably, it still can be lost." Barbara Fields, Columbia University, 1993
This is a succinct and brilliant encapsulation of the "wrap white nationalism in a JD Vance-academic patina" dynamic; I'm grateful you braved the snake's nest of white supremacy to bring us this *on the nose* analysis.
“Why so many young people say they would not die for their own country”- bully for them, if it means dying in any of our doomed bullshit from Vietnam to Iraq and on and on. No qualms about sacrificing someone else’s kids for what amount to nothing more than geopolitical chess moves for the warmongers in charge.
Even though its always in bad faith, never for the right reason and incapable of reaching the correct conclusion, conservative critiques of western liberalism have a kernel of truth in them.
Western (white!) democracies have been a blight on the rest of the world. Not because their stated values of justice and egalitarianism are wrong but because they were founded on and continue to function solely on the premise of and for the preservation of their own supremacy.
From colonization to Manifest Destiny, whatever these people say about freedom, and rule of law and democratic ideals are undercut by a uniform culture of domination, extraction, exploitation and death.
If I allow myself to hope for a livable future for this planet and all its inhabitants, it starts with the wish for the Global South to stamp out any and all aspirations to whiteness, unite and provide the world an alternative to white supremacy.
So, you know, not much hope at all...
On a tangent, I’m not on social media but people should definitely be tagging these trump sycophants with a #trumpcuck hashtag.
If given a choice between Trump fucking his wife or being publicly denounced by Trump and banished from MAGA Is there really any question what Vance and his ilk would choose?
Brave going there, Hamilton, at the new and improved Klan.
Keep that other clan behind Vance in How Things Work. Such a groomed sell-out as J.D. is hardly "not as bad" as the man he would replace.
What really scares right wingers is people entering the country that might want something from the country's owners and leaders. Things like rights, decent wages, fair treatment, education, etc. They come in with strange ideas about what they might deserve in terms of a decent life in their new land. And the right wing - correctly - fears deeply that this is what liberals and lefties also want. The rich do not want to give that to anyone, or let any ideas of equality take root and grow. No one "deserves" anything but the wealthy, or what the rich will oblige. Benchmark native born exemplary "patriots" on the right will accept whatever they are given by their rulers because they understand that is the right way to go, and the correct kind of conservative leaders know what is best. Anyway, you can't see what the brilliant leaders can see, just as a child cannot see things a parent can. You have to accept their judgement. Mr. Trump is smart - a good businessman! - and you can't be smarter than that. If you get shitty wages, no social assistance even under the worst imaginable circumstances, a sudden crisis of increasing prices and cost of living, well, the right wing patriot knows this is not caused by the leaders on their side of the aisle... and anyway some of that is natural in life's struggle against scarcity... and people are lazy, undisciplined and worthless and don't work enough... and that sacrifices have to be made for the greatness of the country, etc. They have been trained not to see that all the surpluses they create through their shitty jobs only accrue to the wealthy. They speak up only to support their leaders, and shut up and follow when they are given orders. At least that is what guys like Vance would like to see and are working to try to cement. Foreigners with weird ideas (and dark skin) will only cause static and "poison" and dilute the proper formula for the pure correct order. But there will always be potential problems... the possibility that eventually, when the scarcity gets too tough to take, the rubes in the cheap seats might start asking real questions. We do occasionally see a tiny bit of this now starting to gestate. Even speaking up at Republican town halls (oh my!), which they stopped doing as a result. So, to head this off: enter police state fascism. The ICE gestapo is not listening to what you think you might "deserve." THEY follow orders and take what they are given, and that after all is the way it is supposed to be. That will do the trick when all idiotic appeals to "loving America" begin to falter.
But I do hate the president, I also hate the vice president (seat filler)
Terrifying guy ... extremely insightful analysis. Vance always makes me want to hide my Beatles records and he's coming for a lot more than that. We have a messiah complex going strong here, and absolutely pure opportunism, so I wonder what might happen if he ends up in the presidency. How he gets in might be a determining factor, if Herr Donald drops dead or by electoral means, but I think anything might happen for reasons Hamilton points out, that Vance is the ultimate ass-kisser, toady and suck-up.
Being president can change that, the difference with Vance being, in comparison with Trump, that he's not stupid, he's not old as hell and he actually has principles, they're just warped as shit. Vance, I think, might be transformed by the presidency because he would leap-frog all those whose asses he's kissed. And, as we know, he's capable of rationalizing anything. As I was reading this post I thought about an assessment of how the presidency affected Trump that I thought insightful. Maybe it applies to Vance ...
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/swamp-trump/551807/
Meaning, I think the people Vance had to suck up to or whose approval he wanted might have to suck up to him. With Trump this didn't play out well, but Vance's character is totally different, and there's still a strain of populism running around in him somewhere, I believe.
"Facts of the world are far less potent than this sense of being wronged and being threatened."
S Peter Davis wrote an article that's very much about this - https://speterdavis.substack.com/p/nobody-cares-about-truth-only-the
Also JD Vance is just the most contemptible of slimy little opportunists, someone who will absolutely shit on everyone and everything he can if he means he can eek out another dollar or another erg of power. I really wouldn't put it past him to sell out his wife because she's brown.
I'd propose his wife is even more contemptible because she's brown. This is what it actually means to be a race traitor.
One last thing - one of the Starbucks in Raleigh NC, not too far from where I live, just voted to unionize. I got into...let's say a discussion about what that'll do to the store with a commenter who apparently opposes unions, wherein I pointed out that the CEO of Starbucks is given many thousands of times more money annually than the average Starbucks worker. He responded that I must be jealous of the CEO's wealth, which is just an asinine response, but also illustrative of how deeply ingrained the prosperity gospel kind of bullshit is in this country.