Oof man. The defector commentary just had a meltdown on this and I don't envy you the hyperventilating bad faith Disability-face co-optation of the language of trauma etc.
Edit; Like Catherine's above. Man, those people move quick.
One guy got "anxiety" when friends knocked on the door. Musta been tough for him, with friends constantly coming over and giving him a spook. I know I for one find people with that level of anxious nerves that they express with gestapo surveillance gear MAGNETIC.
Anyway pretty ableist of you to suggest people don't NEED the nazi scrying orb for hateful suburban racists everyone got by fine without even ten years ago.
It is worth noting that the camera functions on the same principles as an eye.
In that if you scratch its lens with a length of sandpaper, spray paint into it, or in the case of plastic lenses, apply acetone or other harsh solvents, it becomes functionally unuseable.
If you're concerned about the potential consequences see Catherine Clermonts post where in multiple videos of car breakins have been sent to police and the perpetrators are still walking free, still breaking into cars. Just 'greatly reduced'.
People have started installing them on the outside of their hallway-facing apartment doors in my building. Love to literally not be able to leave the building without being on camera.
Well, our neighbourhood does have minor criminals who come around at night breaking into our cars. It cost me $250 to get my car door window replaced, plus loss if work time to clean up the glass inside and outside my car so it wouldn't cause injury, and taping plastic over the window as rain was forecast. This was happening on our street regularly. Are you willing to reimburse me? We started posting our ring camera clips on the neighborhood Facebook page, sending a copy to the police. Funnily enough, the incidence of these particular activities has been greatly reduced. Also, my cat snuck outside one day and it took me 6 weeks to trap him. I did this by monitoring animal activity outaide my house during the night using, you guessed it, the ring camera. Also, for those neighbours who are very old and have a knock at the door, the camera can be viewed without having to get up to look out the peephole, which is challenging for some. And what is wrong with the convenience of protecting your porch from parcel thieves. It is damned inconvenient, and if I need the parcel for my grandchild's birthday, I may not be able to get it in time if someone has stolen it. Give me a break. We have a right to make our lives on our own front porch more convenient and safe. And why are you focusing on this shit when there are so many more important subjects. If you're that bored, read a book or watch the news.
Defensive much? If it took you six weeks to nab your cat, and you’re gonna credit ring for assuaging your animal control ineptitude, knock yourself out. Geriatric challenges of your neighbors, grandchild’s birthday woes? Front porch lives?
"greatly reduced". They plugged their whole neighborhood into ice and handed the cops video of the guy's face and they still haven't caught him and hes still smashing their windows.
Yeah, we’re much better off by being able to push a button to raise/lower a car window than to have to use all that extreme physical effort with a handle to accomplish such a demanding task. Ring is much more like that than indoor plumbing or a polio vaccine. There are wants, and there are needs.
I’d much prefer our technology focus was on the latter, rather than our consumer comfort.
Huh. My old block has had a long-standing problem with frequent package theft, and the many Ring photos circulated of the perpetrators (including to the police) over years at this point have not improved the situation.
Never got one, never wanted one. Even the use cases people give for using it (catching porch pirates, 'seeing' who's at the door) don't make much sense. The cops will not be tracking down whoever took your package, if you get someone to pick up the phone in the first place, so that's moot, and if you have to get up to answer the door anyway, what does it matter who's knocking? Anyone who really wants to get in will get in, and your small camera will do absolutely nothing to stop them. Security theater all around.
"Crime. “Crime.” “Crime!” It is a conceptual delivery system for an unhappy life of fear. Reject it as a category of being. Reject it as an intellectually coherent object. Reject it as a lens with which to view the world. Life is a series of surprising events, some bad and some delightful. The unfolding of these events makes up the wondrous parade of life itself. "
Oof man. The defector commentary just had a meltdown on this and I don't envy you the hyperventilating bad faith Disability-face co-optation of the language of trauma etc.
Edit; Like Catherine's above. Man, those people move quick.
One guy got "anxiety" when friends knocked on the door. Musta been tough for him, with friends constantly coming over and giving him a spook. I know I for one find people with that level of anxious nerves that they express with gestapo surveillance gear MAGNETIC.
Anyway pretty ableist of you to suggest people don't NEED the nazi scrying orb for hateful suburban racists everyone got by fine without even ten years ago.
I . . . don't see this on Defector?
... and whats that elipsis elipsis elipsis supposed to mean?
A pause, like, if I was speaking. I like to do that sometimes.
It is worth noting that the camera functions on the same principles as an eye.
In that if you scratch its lens with a length of sandpaper, spray paint into it, or in the case of plastic lenses, apply acetone or other harsh solvents, it becomes functionally unuseable.
If you're concerned about the potential consequences see Catherine Clermonts post where in multiple videos of car breakins have been sent to police and the perpetrators are still walking free, still breaking into cars. Just 'greatly reduced'.
I love this!
I’ve never had one. You know what I do instead? I look out the window.
Every Ring owner is a camera man for the fascist corporate police state. Resist. Persist. And most of all -- DON'T BE COMPLICIT!
How ‘bout we all stop 🛑 using Amazon?
Yes! Bozo has enough money and I'll just shop locally. Get to meet my neighbors more
People have started installing them on the outside of their hallway-facing apartment doors in my building. Love to literally not be able to leave the building without being on camera.
Dipshits.
Isnt living in a prison becoming the american way to greatness again?
Well, our neighbourhood does have minor criminals who come around at night breaking into our cars. It cost me $250 to get my car door window replaced, plus loss if work time to clean up the glass inside and outside my car so it wouldn't cause injury, and taping plastic over the window as rain was forecast. This was happening on our street regularly. Are you willing to reimburse me? We started posting our ring camera clips on the neighborhood Facebook page, sending a copy to the police. Funnily enough, the incidence of these particular activities has been greatly reduced. Also, my cat snuck outside one day and it took me 6 weeks to trap him. I did this by monitoring animal activity outaide my house during the night using, you guessed it, the ring camera. Also, for those neighbours who are very old and have a knock at the door, the camera can be viewed without having to get up to look out the peephole, which is challenging for some. And what is wrong with the convenience of protecting your porch from parcel thieves. It is damned inconvenient, and if I need the parcel for my grandchild's birthday, I may not be able to get it in time if someone has stolen it. Give me a break. We have a right to make our lives on our own front porch more convenient and safe. And why are you focusing on this shit when there are so many more important subjects. If you're that bored, read a book or watch the news.
This is one good book to read:
https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/shoshana-zuboff/the-age-of-surveillance-capitalism/9781478947271/?lens=publicaffairs
Defensive much? If it took you six weeks to nab your cat, and you’re gonna credit ring for assuaging your animal control ineptitude, knock yourself out. Geriatric challenges of your neighbors, grandchild’s birthday woes? Front porch lives?
Give me a break.
"greatly reduced". They plugged their whole neighborhood into ice and handed the cops video of the guy's face and they still haven't caught him and hes still smashing their windows.
Police state at work baby.
Talk about defensive. Please show empathy toward people whose lives are made easier or safer by using technology. You will need it one day yourself.
Yeah, we’re much better off by being able to push a button to raise/lower a car window than to have to use all that extreme physical effort with a handle to accomplish such a demanding task. Ring is much more like that than indoor plumbing or a polio vaccine. There are wants, and there are needs.
I’d much prefer our technology focus was on the latter, rather than our consumer comfort.
Huh. My old block has had a long-standing problem with frequent package theft, and the many Ring photos circulated of the perpetrators (including to the police) over years at this point have not improved the situation.
Never got one, never wanted one. Even the use cases people give for using it (catching porch pirates, 'seeing' who's at the door) don't make much sense. The cops will not be tracking down whoever took your package, if you get someone to pick up the phone in the first place, so that's moot, and if you have to get up to answer the door anyway, what does it matter who's knocking? Anyone who really wants to get in will get in, and your small camera will do absolutely nothing to stop them. Security theater all around.
Got rid of mine a few weeks ago- I also cancelled my Ring account. Important to let the company know you are done with them.
Perfect. I could not agree more.
One thousand percent
“.....Crime!” It is a conceptual delivery system for an unhappy life of fear."
chef's kiss!
(:
Whither my false sense of security Sir!?!
"Crime. “Crime.” “Crime!” It is a conceptual delivery system for an unhappy life of fear. Reject it as a category of being. Reject it as an intellectually coherent object. Reject it as a lens with which to view the world. Life is a series of surprising events, some bad and some delightful. The unfolding of these events makes up the wondrous parade of life itself. "
This is why progressives lose elections.
-Richard Nixon